Feb 10, 2011, 10:00 AM // 10:00
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#21
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The Hotshot
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Honolulu
Guild: International District [id多]
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I don't think that it's a bad idea, but
a. It's something you can avoid pretty easily by not misclicking.
b. I imagine people hit alt+f4 trying to weapon swap almost as often.
c. I'm sure people will be complaining in a week about how they couldn't close the game in time for whatever reason (trying to dodge parent aggro on a slow computer, trying to save a survivor (yes, I know that zoning to GH is more reliable), etc.).
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Feb 10, 2011, 01:45 PM // 13:45
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#22
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Underworld Spelunker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo
Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]
Profession: E/
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Well, if they complain about not being able to close the client quickly, then that's a good opportunity to tell them that if they close the client they may still lose survivor.
And I can't think of any other reason why they would need to quickly close the client.
And as long as it's an General option you can toggle, they can't complain since you can enable or disable it.
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Feb 10, 2011, 03:34 PM // 15:34
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#23
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Academy Page
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sweden
Guild: Children Of Horrigan
Profession: N/Me
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/signed
Have had this happen a few times. Fortunately i havent closed myself out of anything important, but its still annoying.
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Feb 10, 2011, 04:40 PM // 16:40
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#24
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Scotland, UK
Guild: Jade Reapers [JD]
Profession: Mo/W
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/signed
I won't provide a reason as i think there are plenty reasons above me ^_^
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Feb 10, 2011, 05:29 PM // 17:29
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#25
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California
Guild: Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]
Profession: Me/
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/signed
I've closed GW meaning to close an open browser window or something else so many times I can't even count. Confirm logout, why not close client?
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Feb 10, 2011, 05:33 PM // 17:33
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#26
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Profession: W/A
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I myself never closed out by trying to flag heroes, but a few times did it trying to close out of friends/guild page. I definetly agree
for the Alt+f4 comment, thats really hard to do by accident....
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Feb 10, 2011, 09:28 PM // 21:28
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#27
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Administrator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by North Dragon Slayer
for the Alt+f4 comment, thats really hard to do by accident....
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Not really. It makes a lot more sense than misclicking. Misclicking is an accident caused by your mouse slipping. It's definitely possible that someone will be holding alt to see where their allies are and then see the need to switch weapons. I've never done it myself (I don't pvp much and weapon swapping isn't particularly significant in pve), but I'd say it could definitely happen. I know where the buttons I need to press are, but I don't usually care which ones they are, so if GW randomly closed I'd have to think about which buttons I pressed.
Anyway, there's no reason to not have this, so /signed.
Also, I read somewhere (no idea where so I can't provide a quote) that Anet can't read Sardelac for legal reasons. If you really want to get something implemented you'll have to post it on somewhere official like the wiki.
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Feb 11, 2011, 08:31 AM // 08:31
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#28
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: USA
Guild: Psychic Distraction [PD]
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yes. i too think we need more confirmation messages for things we have told the software or game to do. there are not enough 'are you sure?... are you sure youre sure?... are you really really sure?' style messages as seen when clicking Yes boxes when loading into a new area. lets please make this game more windows users friendly and add more confirmations for our actions please.
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Feb 11, 2011, 10:21 AM // 10:21
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#29
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Guild: Noble Order Of Valiant Angels
Profession: Me/
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Honestly, I don't like the confirmation dialogues on any of my programs. One such program asks "Do you want to exit <program name>?" And I always think to myself "If I didn't want to exit, I would not have pressed the X or pressed Alt+F4." I don't want any of my other programs to ask me that either. And this includes Guild Wars. So...
/notsigned
Sorry.
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Feb 11, 2011, 12:25 PM // 12:25
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#30
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Ive never had this personally happen to me, but a guild mate did this in Urgoz one night by accident, thinking he was closing his inventory.
The x out in the top right should be treated as a log out button.
/signed
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Feb 11, 2011, 09:13 PM // 21:13
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#31
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Administrator
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Perhaps if people don't like the extra confirmation box Anet could allow reconnects (within 2 minutes or so) for players who close the client without logging out first. That way no one gets bothered by the extra click and people who accidentally click the x have a small window of time in which they can log back in. Don't know how possible that is or whether it's exploitable or not though.
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Feb 11, 2011, 09:16 PM // 21:16
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#32
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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I have actually done this once or twice.
But still, its not exactly a common problem.
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Feb 11, 2011, 09:39 PM // 21:39
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#33
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2009
Guild: Order of the Sacred Tongue
Profession: E/A
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Honesty I don't understand why there is an X at the top corner to begin with. There is a legitimate logout option so why have this? I would vote to just remove the button all together, then no problems, and much easier to implement.
/signed
And for survivor chicken mode escape, well, that seems more of an exploit option that I would frown upon. If your going to Die your going to die suck it up and re-roll. :P
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Feb 11, 2011, 10:46 PM // 22:46
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#34
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2010
Guild: Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]
Profession: R/
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Crusty: there is an x at the top because it is on all programs, not just GW. The Close, Minimize, and Maximize/Windowed buttons are on all programs (on the upper right on Windows, and on the upper left on Macs, iirc). I don't think that's something GW has control over...
Also, if that button wasn't there, how would you ever close the client?? Logging out doesn't close out of GW...
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Feb 11, 2011, 11:12 PM // 23:12
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#35
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: guildwiki.org/User:Lorazcyk
Profession: Mo/
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/signed, but make it as a OPTION in F11.
I hate it when programs keep asking stupid questions like that.
What I did since the very first time I played Guild Wars, was put the Menu on the upper right corner. That way you'll never click [X].
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Feb 11, 2011, 11:20 PM // 23:20
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#36
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Furnace Stoker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailina
Crusty: there is an x at the top because it is on all programs, not just GW. The Close, Minimize, and Maximize/Windowed buttons are on all programs (on the upper right on Windows, and on the upper left on Macs, iirc). I don't think that's something GW has control over...
Also, if that button wasn't there, how would you ever close the client?? Logging out doesn't close out of GW...
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The vast majority of games played in fullscreen don't have those buttons, they just appear on the windows when played in windowed mode. But GW has them also in fullscreen and in all the years of playing clicking that X accidentally has happened to me once or twice. I would definately like if there was a confirmation just like with logging off, but the best way to implement it would be as a toggle in options.
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Feb 12, 2011, 04:33 PM // 16:33
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#37
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Ascalonian Squire
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/signed
Seems like a good enough idea. As someone suggested, I would also vote to have the buttons removed. I think GW is the only game I've played that has those buttons when in full screen.
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Feb 12, 2011, 09:51 PM // 21:51
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#38
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: GameAmp Guides [AMP]
Profession: E/
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/signed
I like the idea, maybe combine it with the log-out box (log out, change character, close game, cancel). I get asked half a dozen times if I'm ready to enter an outpost in Cantha, so why not get asked if I accidentally hit the 'close game' x in the top right of the screen?
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Feb 13, 2011, 07:36 PM // 19:36
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#39
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming
I don't think that it's a bad idea, but
a. It's something you can avoid pretty easily by not misclicking.
b. I imagine people hit alt+f4 trying to weapon swap almost as often.
c. I'm sure people will be complaining in a week about how they couldn't close the game in time for whatever reason (trying to dodge parent aggro on a slow computer, trying to save a survivor (yes, I know that zoning to GH is more reliable), etc.).
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So make it a toggable option not hard....
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Feb 14, 2011, 12:44 PM // 12:44
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#40
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n
Guild: Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]
Profession: N/
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/signed to make it an option you can toggle in F11. I personally get annoyed by the pop ups on "This mission contains characters from other campaigns, do you wish to continue?" etc. Make it an option and that way the survivors can still rapidly escape, people who don't like pop ups don't get bugged by it and those who mis-click won't.
I doubt very much it'll be added but that seems like the most sensible solution for everyone. You'll still get people who don't realise it's an option and QQ that they closed the client or can't turn the message off but you can't please everyone :P
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